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Finding Breast Cancer Early: Age 40, Every Year

by Dr. Len November 16, 2009

The United States Preventivec Services Task Force (USPSTF) today released a series of reports updating their guideline recommendations for screening mammography for the early detection of breast cancer.  Their conclusions are bound to raise another round of intense discussion about the benefits, risks and harms of screening for breast cancer.

 

There is certainly nothing wrong with that, with the exception that if we make the wrong decisions or offer women the wrong guidance about the early detection of breast cancer, we could reverse the considerable progress that has been make in reducing deaths from this disease over the past twenty years.

 

Unlike the Task Force, the American Cancer Society is not changing its current recommendations that women at average risk of getting breast cancer should get a mammogram every year starting at age 40.

 

In this era of health care reform, these new Task Force guidelines could have real implications for how insurers, government programs and maybe even the pending health care reform bills will cover screening mammography in the future.

 

Before I actually discuss the guidelines, I would like to set the stage with the very last sentence of the report that came from one of the evidence reports written by researchers from the Oregon University Health Sciences Center (OHSU).  I do this because I think it puts the issue into context:

 

“Mammography screening at any age is a tradeoff of a continuum of benefits and harms. The ages at which this tradeoff becomes acceptable to individuals and society are not clearly resolved by the available evidence.”  (emphasis mine)

 

With that as a starting point, here are the short versions of the Task Force’s new recommendations for screening mammography:

 

1)      The Task Force recommends against routine screening for women ages 40-49.  Whether to start screening before age 50 should be an individual choice.

 

2)      The Task Force recommends screening every two years for women between ages 50 and 74.

 

3)      The Task Force can’t make any recommendations on whether women ages 75 and over should be screened, because there is not enough evidence upon which they can base a recommendation.

 

4)      There is not enough evidence to make a recommendation about the value of clinical breast examination (a careful breast exam done periodically by a trained medical professional) for women 40 years of age or older

 

5)      There is no evidence that teaching women how to do breast self examination makes an difference, so they recommend against teaching women how to do it

 

6)      There isn’t enough evidence to say anything about the value of digital mammography and MRI screening in women at average risk of breast cancer

 

 

So now the recommendations of the Society are considerably different from the Task Force, whereas in the past the only real difference was whether a screening mammogram should be done every year (ACS) or every one to two years (Task Force). Until now, both organizations had recommended starting screening for breast cancer at age 40. 

 

Those recommendations had been in place for many years. These changes are bound to confuse women and health care professionals who must now make a professional and a personal choice as to which recommendations to follow.  The worst outcome would be if the confusion leads women to do nothing since the experts can’t seem to make up their minds.

 

The Task Force believes their new recommendations can retain most of the benefits of mammograms—that is, decreasing deaths from breast cancer—while reducing the risks and harms of the procedure, which includes such things as having to get additional studies to clarify a suspicious finding on a mammogram, or getting a biopsy of a suspicious lesion that turns out not to be breast cancer, or perhaps having a woman embark on a treatment for an actual breast cancer that would never have interfered with her life.

 

The review of the various clinical trials as reported by OHSU showed that mammography reduced deaths from breast cancer by about 15% in women ages 40-49.   They also found that 1904 (range 929-6378) women had to be screened over 10 years to save one life.  For women ages 50-59 years, the reduction in deaths was about the same (14%).  The number that needed to be screened was 1339 (range 322-7455).  In women ages 60-69, the reduction in deaths was 32%, and the number who needed to be screened over 10 years was 377.

 

What this means is that mammograms are indeed successful in reducing deaths from breast cancer in all age groups, especially women between 60 and 69 years old.  But since the actual incidence of breast cancer is less in women ages 40-49, the absolute/actual numbers of lives saved is also less.  So you have to screen more women to get the same benefit. 

 

Stated another way, the Task Force agrees that mammography reduces deaths in women ages 40-49.  It just doesn’t save enough lives, in their opinion.

 

What about those risks and harms of getting a mammogram?  Here is what did the OHSU investigators have to say:

 

  • No significant damage was seen from the radiation associated with mammograms.

 

  • Mammograms can be painful, but “few (women) would consider this a deterrent from future screening.”

 

  • There was no consistent effect on most women with regards to the anxiety associated with mammograms, but it was an issue for some women.

 

  • “False positive” mammograms—where the screening mammogram suggests there may be a cancer, but eventually none is found—are an issue, with more of them in younger women compared to older women.  But false positive mammograms that lead to an actual biopsy are less common in younger women than in older women, which means that younger women may need more extra mammograms or ultrasounds to take a look at a suspicious area but don’t actually have to have a biopsy done when compared to older women where the opposite is true.  (In more precise terms, according to the paper, in women ages 40-49, for every case of invasive breast cancer that is diagnosed 556 women have a mammogram, 47 have additional images, and 5 have biopsies.)

 

  • Overdiagnosis was a difficult issue to address, because there really is no direct way of determining which breast cancers we treat are cancers that might lead to a woman’s death as compared to breast cancers we treat that would never cause a problem.  They concluded that overdiagnosis rates in various studies ranged from 1% to 30%, with most falling between 1% to 10%. 

 

As the Oregon researchers point out based on this analysis, “These estimates are difficult to apply because, for individual women, it is not known which types of cancer will progress, how quickly cancer will advance and expected lifetimes.”

 

The largest burden of overdiagnosis probably occurs in the population of older women, where you can diagnose and treat a breast cancer but woman wouldn’t have a problem with the breast cancer because she had another serious disease and died from something other than breast cancer.  If that is where the bulk of the problem lies, then that is a different situation than having overdiagnosis in a young woman, where it could impact the quality of her life for many more years. 

 

What about new technologies such as digital mammograms (which are quickly becoming the only type of mammogram available in many cities in this country) and MRI screening for women at average risk of breast cancer?

 

Here is what the OHSU researchers to say about those topics as well as a comment about how often mammograms should be done:

 

“New technologies, such as digital mammography and MRI, have become widely used in the United States without definitive studies of their effect on screening.  Consumer expectations that new technology is better than old may obscure potential adverse effects, such as higher false-positive results and expense.  No screening trials incorporating newer technology have been published, and estimates of benefits and harms in this report are based predominantly on studies of film mammography.  No definitive studies of the appropriate interval for mammography screening exist, although trial data reflect screening intervals from 12 to 33 months.”

 

Let’s now focus on the other research report which was based on a very sophisticated computer model designed and supported by the National Cancer Institute.  The purpose of this model was to try and determine at what age screening mammography should begin, when it should end, and how often it should be done.

 

The model actually looked at 20 different age/frequency “scenarios.”  Six different institutions around the country that participate in this project looked at each of these scenarios and came up with their own estimates of how the different combinations of age and frequency impacted the benefits of getting a screening mammogram.

 

I suspect to no one’s surprise, each of these six complex computer models came up with different answers for the same questions. 

 

For example, in one model, if you screened only women from 50-74 and did it every two years, you reduced breast cancer deaths by about 28%.  If you did it every year from age 40 to 84, you reduced mortality by about 54%.  In another model, the same numbers were about 22% and 38%.  In the first study, doing mammograms every other year for more years made a big difference.  In the second study, it still made a difference, but not quite as much.  And there were still other studies where it made little or no difference

 

And, not unexpectedly, the later you started getting a screening mammogram and how often you did it resulted in a significant difference in the number of mammograms a woman would have over her lifetime.  Start later, end earlier and get it every two years required many fewer lifetime mammograms than starting at 40, screening to a later age, and getting it every year.

 

So what did these experts conclude from their computer models?

 

“This study uses 6 established models that use common inputs but different approaches and assumptions to extend previous randomized mammography screening trial results to the US population and to age groups in whom trial results are less conclusive.  All 6 modeling groups concluded that the most efficient screening strategies are those that include a biennial screening interval.  Conclusions about the optimal starting ages for screening depend more on the measure chosen for evaluating outcomes.  If the goal of a national screening program is to reduce mortality in the most efficient manner, then programs that screen biennially from age 50 years to age 69, 74 or 79 years are among the most efficient on the basis of the ratio of benefits to the number of screening examinations.  If the goal of a screening program is to efficiently maximize the number of life-years gained, then the preferred strategy would be to screen biennially starting at age 40 years.  Decisions about the best starting and stopping ages also depend on tolerance for false-positive results and the rate of overdiagnosis.”

 

The bottom line of this research was that you could get somewhere between 70-99% of the benefit of screening mammograms (that is, reducing deaths from breast cancer) while reducing the harms by about 50% if you started screening at age 50 and did it every two years as compared to starting at age 40 and doing it every year.

 

Eventually, someone has to take this information and make some recommendations, and that is exactly what the Task Force did. 

 

We probably have learned as much as we are going to learn from large clinical trials of mammography.  If we are going to extend our knowledge about the benefits, risks and harms of mammography, it probably won’t come from new, large clinical trials. We have to find other ways to answer our questions about the early detection of breast cancer, and one of the ways to do that is through computer models.

 

The question, however, is whether or not the models are sufficiently accurate to tell us with reasonable certainty what would happen under a particular situation.  It is one thing to try to predict the future or support a theory.  It is quite a different thing, in my opinion, when you take computer models and make public policy that affects millions of women with respect to a life threatening disease.  Even though the models may be very well designed, there are always questions about how well they truly reflect or predict “real life.”

 

Aside from the confusion this report is going to sow in the minds of women about when (and maybe even whether) they should be screened for breast cancer, there is the question about how we are going to provide insurance coverage for women who need mammograms.

 

It remains to be seen how insurers, Medicare, Medicaid and states where insurers are required to cover screening mammograms are going to react to these recommendations.  Hopefully, they will continue to recognize that other respected organizations—such as the American Cancer Society—have different thoughts on this issue and are still appropriate benchmarks to use when determining whether or not to pay for screening mammograms.

 

And then there is health care reform, where the influence of the Task Force may be considerable under the various legislative proposals currently wending their way through Congress.

 

If the Task Force recommendations become the benchmark in the new legislation, then we may have a problem.  If that turns out to be the case, hopefully Congress will realize that recommendations from other organizations that have looked at the same evidence and who have come to different conclusions should also be considered as valid when making coverage decisions for new or existing insurance plans. If not, then it will be much more difficult for a woman to get a mammogram if she is between 40 and 49 years old, or if she wants to get one every year as we currently recommend.

 

The American Cancer Society is not changing our recommendations for breast cancer screening as a result of this report.  Based on our initial review of this new guideline, we see no reason to change a strategy that has proven effective in reducing the death rates for breast cancer in all age groups, including those women ages 40-49.

 

We will review the evidence offered by the computer modeling approach since it represents new research, and we will continue to examine information from other sources as it becomes available.  And, if that information or research is compelling, we will always be open to updating our recommendations.  But until such time as we are convinced that such evidence supports such a change, our guidelines will remain as they have been for the past 12 years.

 

What we know—as noted in the Task Force report—is that deaths from breast cancer  have declined 2.3% per year for all women and 3.3% per year for women aged 40-50 years beginning in 1990.  That may not seem much year to year, but the total impact over 19 years has been significant, and cannot be ignored.  This is especially true when one considers that the death rate was absolutely stable for the preceding six decades.  Screening mammograms and better treatments are responsible for that success.

 

We do no agree that 70% of the benefit from screening mammograms is the right way to go.  We do believe that we should aim to choose 100% of the benefit.  We should not forget that the “benefit” in this situation is reducing deaths from breast cancer.  A 30% reduction in saving lives is not acceptable.

 

We also recognize that mammograms are not perfect.  We realize that women do have to get additional studies for suspicious lesions.  We realize that some women have biopsies that do not show breast cancer.  We realize that our predictive tests are not perfect, so that we can’t say with certainty which breast cancers are aggressive and require intensive treatment and which would—if left alone—never cause a problem.

 

We realize that we need better screening tools, and that we must work diligently to improve the quality of screening mammography across the country.

 

Until we have something better, what we have to work with to detect breast cancer early is the screening mammogram.  Is it imperfect? Yes.  Has it saved lives and reduced deaths from breast cancer?  Absolutely. 

 

And that is the fact that simply cannot be ignored.

 

Comments

11/16/2009 6:51:57 PM #

Jen

A voice of reason in the midst of hysteria.

Thank you for your common sense.  Dana Farber just saved my life.  My mammo at 39 showed a cluster of microcalcifications and my excisional biopsy at DF Boston found Invasive Ductal Carcinoma.

My primary care offered anti anxiety meds as a remedy for my cluster of microcalcifications.  If I listened to her and this 'panel' I'd be dead by 50.

Jen

11/16/2009 6:57:04 PM #

Delores Recknor

In March 2000 (age 51)I had my mamo which showed nothing.  In November 2000 I saw my physician and mentioned a lump in my breast.  He said it was probably a cyst and gave me my paperwork for a mamo in April 2000.  I tried to get it checked before then but it wasn't possible no one would listen.  I had the mamo on 4/1/2001.  On May 2, 2001 I had a mastectomy for DCIS with results of 20% invasive factor.  6 months of chemo followed.  Under these new guidelines it would have been way more than 20% invasive.  Please don't let us take these steps backwards, we must keep marching ahead.

Delores Recknor

11/16/2009 7:55:44 PM #

DMC

Most DCIS resolves on its own.  Screening mammography started in the 80s,  the mortality benefits from mammography are tiny compared to what Tamoxifen did.  For every women who had their life saved by a screening mammogram there are 10 women who think they were saved but they were in reality overdiagnosed and went through chemo, surgery and radiation needlessly.  http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab001877.html

DMC

11/16/2009 10:02:25 PM #

Dr. Hampton

As a breast surgeon, focused and benign and malignant disease, and treating a young population of women-these guidelines will undo all of the work done thusfar.  I read in a CNN article that not one of the members of the task force is an oncologist (doctor who treats cancer).  As for the comment by DMC, DCIS does NOT resolve on its own.  DCIS is a precursor to invasive cancer.  We have evolved in treatments and are looking at the genetics and genomics of individual patient's tumor cells and individualizing treatment.  I wholeheartedly agree that we should keep the current guidelines until we have more data to support these recommendations. I have plenty of patients in their 40's who might be dead if they had waited.

Dr. Hampton

11/16/2009 10:58:55 PM #

Dr. Schmampton

Screening is likely to reduce breast cancer mortality. As the effect was lowest in the adequately randomised trials, a reasonable estimate is a 15% reduction corresponding to an absolute risk reduction of 0.05%. Screening led to 30% overdiagnosis and overtreatment, or an absolute risk increase of 0.5%. This means that for every 2000 women invited for screening throughout 10 years, one will have her life prolonged and 10 healthy women, who would not have been diagnosed if there had not been screening, will be treated unnecessarily. Furthermore, more than 200 women will experience important psychological distress for many months because of false positive findings. It is thus not clear whether screening does more good than harm. To help ensure that the women are fully informed of both benefits and harms before they decide whether or not to attend screening, we have written an evidence-based leaflet for lay people that is available in several languages on www.cochrane.dk..

Dr. Schmampton

11/16/2009 11:04:59 PM #

Elmstein

It's weird how since the advent of screening mammography we've seen a 500% increase in the diagnosis of DCIS (the most early version of all breast cancers) and only a 15% decrease in mortality and nearly no change in the absolute number of advanced breast cancers.  If we're removing all these early breast cancers from the population through early detection,  then why are we not decreasing breast cancer deaths or advanced cancers more?   Sounds like we're finding stuff we didn't need to find.  Which is a boondoggle for beast  cancer surgeons and oncologists but a huge burden on health women.

Elmstein

11/17/2009 7:53:40 AM #

Lucy Hershberger

I am 48 two years from the new recommendation to start Mammograms.  Last month DCIS was found in my annual mammogram.  This was found before it began to spread so I was able to have a lumpectomy and remove all of the DCIS.  I will not have to go through chemotherapy or reconstruction from a radical mastectomy, as I would have if I had waited two more years.  I agree that if the goal of this change is to reduce false positive results it must not be done at the risk of early detection.  The dollar savings in reducing unnecessary procedures will not be enough to compensate for the cost to women who wait and find cancer at a later stage.

Lucy Hershberger

11/17/2009 9:27:11 AM #

Elizabeth

And once again, everyone is mute on the subject of the many women who are diagnosed with breast cancer in their 20's and 30's.   If it's going to become more difficult for women in their 40's to get a mammogram, what is that going to do for women in their 20's and 30's, who already get blown off by their healthcare providers when they come in with a lump?   I got lucky - my nurse practitioner was a cancer survivor herself and had no qualms about insisting that mammogram and ultrasound.   But a lot of young women are already told they're "too young," and their diagnosis and treatment get delayed.   In four months, my tumor went from not palpable at all to a 2 cm tumor that had already spread to my lymph nodes...what would have happened if I had encountered a "you're too young, we don't start mammograms until age 50" practitioner?

Elizabeth

11/17/2009 9:34:56 AM #

Kay

I was shocked to hear the Task Force recommendations on NBC News.  I am 55 yrs., with IDC, Stage 1, a year ago. If I hadn't had a mammogram every year, this tumor might have been large enough to require chemo. I personally this it was missed the year before because our clinic didn't have digital mammography. Please continue to screen EVERY year after age 50!

Kay

11/17/2009 1:20:23 PM #

Priscilla

The USPSTF argument that a preventative test like mammography is more or less "efficient" is not comforting to those who want to be treated like individuals instead of like a statistic. It tends to reinforce the notion that health reform will make health care less accessible to the individual in an attempt to make it more affordable to the government.

Priscilla

11/17/2009 1:41:43 PM #

Deborah Buchanan

I am 52 now but was diagnosed with triple negative bc in January 2007 at the age of 48.  I was a Stage I, grade three, meaning it was very aggressive and there were three small tumors.  I had lumpbectomy, four rounds chemo and 34 radiation treatments.  I had been getting mammograms every year since the age of 40 and had to undergo one biopsy prior to this diagnosis in the same breast.  I can only thank God I was able to get the mammograms, my insurance paid for it.  I otherwise would not have done that and today I would probably be dying if not already dead.  The mammogram completely saved my life between the ages of 40 and 49.

Deborah Buchanan

11/17/2009 1:41:45 PM #

Deborah Buchanan

I am 52 now but was diagnosed with triple negative bc in January 2007 at the age of 48.  I was a Stage I, grade three, meaning it was very aggressive and there were three small tumors.  I had lumpbectomy, four rounds chemo and 34 radiation treatments.  I had been getting mammograms every year since the age of 40 and had to undergo one biopsy prior to this diagnosis in the same breast.  I can only thank God I was able to get the mammograms, my insurance paid for it.  I otherwise would not have done that and today I would probably be dying if not already dead.  The mammogram completely saved my life between the ages of 40 and 49.

Deborah Buchanan

11/17/2009 2:25:46 PM #

Linda Walters

"5)    There is no evidence that teaching women how to do breast self examination makes an difference, so they recommend against teaching women how to do it" (Reoommended by "Task Force"
My 29 year old step daughter saw an advertisement on TV during October's Breast Cancer Awareness month. (2 weeks ago). She found a lump, and has been diagnosed with Triple Negative Breast Cancer". She would not have qualified for a mammogram at this age with no history of breast cancer in her family, or any other risk factors. She is, thankfully, Stage 1...due to the information received by the advertisement she happened to watch. I am outraged by this and all of the other recommendations offered by doctors and specialists who are looking to save MORE lives?!!! ... or save more money?!!!

Linda Walters

11/17/2009 2:28:10 PM #

WhyMommy

Dr. Len, is there a link that you can provide to the OHSU evidence report?  I'm having trouble reconciling the 14% of deaths prevented by mammograms with the 3% death rate quoted in the Mandelblatt study ... is the 14% supported?

Thank you,
Susan (WhyMommy at Toddler Planet)

WhyMommy

11/17/2009 2:35:07 PM #

Sue

It's not false positives that harm women it is the unnecessary diagnosis of breast cancer.  The studies show that when you are diagnosed with cancer from a screening mammogram and you survive the chance that you were diagnosed with something that would have NEVER affected your health is 10 to  1.  10 of you women who think you were saved by mammography were harmed and one was saved.  The failures of screening mammography are now spokes persons for the test that harmed them.  THIS IS WHY THE USPTF changed their recs and why england is changing theirs.  The test will harm 10 times more of you than it will help.  This has nothing to do with politics or socialized medicine,  this is about saving women needless treatments and the lifelong label of breast cancer survivor.  MOST EARLY BREAST CANCER NEVER TURNS INTO AGGRESSIVE BREAST CANCER.  This is fact,  get used to it.  We are being manipulated for the profit of 3 different industries with screening mammography.  Do your own research and don't simply rely on corrupt insiders to tell you what's best for you.  You are brilliant, powerful HEALTHY women.

Sue

11/17/2009 6:12:10 PM #

Joellen Easton

Hi -

I’m a journalist at the public radio show Marketplace. We want to hear from people who either have had mammograms, or who have been thinking about having one, as well as people whose businesses or workplaces my be affected in some way by the new guidelines. We have a form running down some questions online, where you can share your insights. Please chime in if you’d like to inform our coverage on the new guidelines. Here’s the link: bit.ly/3kEqBo

Thanks for reading,
Joellen Easton

Joellen Easton

11/17/2009 6:21:36 PM #

Doctor Bob

www.drfuhrman.com/.../breast_cancer_graph.png

So breast cancer diagnoses shot up after the wide spread adoption of screening mammography but the mortality from breast cancer was pretty static.  Sure Tamoxifen and the women's health initiative decreased mortality quite a bit in the 90s and early 2000s.  But screening mammography harms 10 times the women it saves.  Not false positives,  real genuine diagnosis of breast cancer,  for nothing.  Most women diagnosed with early stage breast cancer would have lived their lives still healthy and cancer free.  Atrocity for profit

Doctor Bob

11/17/2009 6:43:15 PM #

Kimberly

Under the new mammography guidelines I would probably be dead. Diagnosed at 33 with an aggressive tumor, if I had been told my insurance would not pay, (but if I wanted it I could pay for it), for mammogram, ultrasound, and biopsy, I would not have been able to afford these services. I had to be a squeaky wheel anyway, trying to get doctors to thoroughly investigate a young woman's belief that something is not right when it is a disease "primarily found in older women". I am saddened in the recommendations, for all the young women who will come after me and find they cannot afford to pay for the invasive and costly diagnostics that are required to find tumors in the dense breast tissue of young women. I am in shock that they go on further to recommend NOT teaching women about self-examination, for that is how I found my tumor.

I implore you all to write to your elected officials and become champions for Breast Cancer Awareness and Insurance Reform that supports teaching young women how to examine their breasts and responding with approvals rather than denials for young women needing investigative diagnostics. This is NOT a "disease found primarily in older women" any longer.

Kimberly

11/17/2009 6:44:15 PM #

Rayka

Yes, I agree - thank for the being the voice of reason. Also in response to Dr. Hampton's post, here is the link to the current members of the task force and as far as I can tell no one has either oncology or cancer control experience. http://www.ahrq.gov/clinic/uspstfab.htm#Members

Rayka

11/17/2009 6:46:34 PM #

Tom Kearney MD

I am the chief of breast cancer surgery at an NCI designated cancer center. I think the Task Force has done a disservice to women everywhere. Yes, there are some minimal DCIS cases that are over treated and women do have to go through additional imaging and even biopsy in many cases. But, the evidence clearly shows that lives are saved. There are many areas in medicine where it is legitimate to question the cost of an intervention in terms of the numbers of lives saved. I do think we waste a lot of money and time on futile care instead of focusing on prevention and early detection. Mammography is not one of those areas. It is a good investment in health.

Tom Kearney MD

11/17/2009 7:47:19 PM #

Ann

Listen up, Ladies, after 37 years of military-gov't health care- it's gonna get worse.  You have not seen how bad it can get!!!

Ann

11/17/2009 8:49:36 PM #

LAS

As a Mammography Technologist of 25 years, the new guidelines for screening mammograms is very surprising to me. We see a considerable number of women in their 40's who end up having a biopsy based on a finding on their mammogram and the result of their biopsy is positive for cancer. There seems to be an increasing number of invasive or infiltrating cancers, just not DCIS.  Without early detection, prognosis is worse.  Women-keep getting your mammograms yearly-it just may save your life. Don't let the government and health care reform dictate your decision.

LAS

11/17/2009 9:22:55 PM #

Sue

This is going to take some getting used to folks but it is certain that screening mammograms pick up "cancers" that did not need to be found.  As a society we are better at accepting this with PSA screening than with mammography screening.  Most women who were diagnosed with an "early stage breast cancer" by screening mammogram and survived who now walk around telling people mammography saved their lives were HARMED by that screening test.  For every one woman of that group who was truly saved there are 10 who were needlessly diagnosed and treated.  This FACT is the reason why screening mammography is being questioned by most of Europe and several US breast cancer advocacy groups.  But please don't accept any expert's opinion on this.  Take your time and read and ask questions and learn.  The truth is rising to the top with this issue.  The political us versus them mindset is a trap to keep the breast cancer industry growing and profitable.  It has been very lucrative diagnosing all these healthy women with cancers that would never have been found and would never have caused symptoms.  It is time to admit our errors and spend our time and energy on real progress fighting the causes of breast cancer.  Perhaps we'll also develop a better screening test along the way that actually helps more people than it hurts.  Here are some of the large advocacy groups:  takeaction.stopbreastcancer.org/.../31MythsAndTruths
http://www.bcaction.org/
nwhn.org/.../detail.cfm?info_id=20&topic=Position%20Papers

Sue

11/17/2009 9:51:55 PM #

Angela

Thank you for your comments and for the stand against these new recommendations. I was diagnosed with invasive ductal carcinoma at age 37 and am currently undergoing an aggressive chemotherapy regimen. When I found the lumps in my breast during a self exam, I was told multiple times that it probably wasn't cancer - given my age and showing few other risk factors. My abnormal mammogram quickly led to a biopsy which confirmed my cancer. Additional tests confirmed that I have a very high risk for recurrence even beyond treatment. If I were to follow these guidelines, chances are that I would not live to 45. What I have felt throughout this battle is that the cancer patients and survivors under 50 - and under 40 - need more attention and direction, not less. I support the EARLY Act, and I strongly believe that the current guidelines should remain intact.

Angela

11/17/2009 10:23:13 PM #

GLENN SPIELMAN

I AM A MAN WITH A WIFE, THREE DAUGHTERS AND SEVEN GRANDCHILDREN.  ALTHOUGH MY FAMILY HAS ESCAPED BREAST CANCER, AMONG US WE HAVE HAD MANY OTHER VERY SERIOUS CANCERS ... ALL CAUGHT EARLY BECAUSE OF THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY (ACS) GUIDELINES.  THE NUMBER OF LIVES SAVED UNDER THESE GUIDELINES IS COUNTLESS. THE CUMMULATIVE BENEFIT TO SOCIETY FROM THOSE WHO HAVE CONTINUED TO LIVE BY FOLLOWING THE GIUDELINES IS ENORMOUS - IMMEASURABLE!
IT IS MY FIRM OPINION THAT THE ACS WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP THE AMERICAN PUBLIC ADVISED OF GUIDLINES MOST BENEFICIAL TO CANCER DISCOVERY AND APPROPRIATE TESTING,BASED ON SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE.

GLENN SPIELMAN

11/17/2009 11:50:31 PM #

Jane

I had a mammogram at age 63.  My tumor was 2cm and had invaded my lymph nodes.  What if I had to wait 2 years for a mammogram.  My cancer would probably have gone to an incurable stage. I am now 64 and over the past year I had surgery, chemo, and radiation.  I will now be taking Tamoxifen.  I hope that all women are able to get a mammogram every year.  It may save their life!  It saved mine.

Jane

11/18/2009 2:30:09 AM #

Elise

Your "firm opinions" and "beliefs" and feelings have been and are being manipulated people.  Stop and think instead of reflexively reacting and lining up to defend a practice which is proven to harm 10 times the women it saves.  You are too smart for this.  You are not being made healthy by these screening recommendations you are being harvested for the profits your manufactured illness produces.  Mammograms save lives but they destroy 10 times as many.  After 30 years we have generations of women mutilated and terrorfied without benefit.  For every 10,000 women saved 100,000 were harmed;  for every 100,000 saved,  1 million harmed.  This is coming to an end and the people who have profited and now refuse to admit their mistakes will squirm.

Elise

11/18/2009 10:47:12 AM #

Gregory D. Pawelski

In the face of anger, confusion, fear, outright revolt, disturbing and shocking reactions, there has been no effort to educate people on the evidence behind the USPSTF recommendations. And one would question if the panel's recommendation considered costs? It did not! We would like to believe that medical advice we get is based solely on good medical practice and evidence-based medicine. It is also important to note that companies like General Electric and DuPont, both which manufacture mammography equipment, are large donors to organizations that are against any change in the recommendations.

In the same vein as giving an auspicious example if it were your spouse that died in her 40's, what if it were your spouse that was diagnosed with ductal carcinoma in situ, a dormant cancer which does not spread and may never have caused problems, and doctors advised her to have a mastectomy in case it might spread? The reality had been two wide excisions, one partial mutilation, one reconstruction, five weeks' radiotherapy, chronic infection, four bouts of cellulitis, several general anaesthetics and more than a year off work. All because of an earlier-than-advisable screening process?

Gregory D. Pawelski

11/18/2009 11:38:51 AM #

monica gimenez

I was diagnosed with bilateral breast cancer 2 years ago at the age of 46, with no previous family history of cancer. Not only did the cancer DID NOT RESOLVE ON ITS OWN, but it did spread to a few lymph nodes. I had surgery and chemotherapy, and I'm alive and well. To many people I might be just "a statistic", but to my husband, my children, my parents and siblings, and my friends I'm a wonderful, loving, caring person who deserves to live to the fullest. That's exactly what I'm doing thanks to the fantastic doctors that advised me and continue to treat me who advocated early screening, surgery, and chemotherapy. No task force or intelligent person will convince that mammograms and procedures are not saving lives. This isn't about what we "feel". It's all about science. To know who is right, all we have to do is look at the number of women who are saved by the current guidelines.

monica gimenez

11/18/2009 4:48:51 PM #

Sherry Willmschen

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I am an American Cancer Society employee and survivor of DCIS times 2 beginning at the age of 43 I was first diagnosed due to mammography which was reluctantly provided by my insurance.  The mammogram showed calicification which due to my mom's death of breast cancer in 1974 (she was first diagnosed at age 38 and died at 50) was recognized by my primary care Doctor to be pursued.  I am alive today because of it.  I am proud of ACS for continuing with the recommendations from the past.   Once again women's health issues are being overlooked.  My fear is that health insurance companies will move to adopt these recommendations in states that do not have laws to prevent them from doing so (Oregon requires yearly exams now).  The other fear I have is that women will die or require more treatment due to cancer not being identified at an early stage as mine was.

Sherry Willmschen

11/18/2009 6:50:35 PM #

Helen

I was diagnosed with DCIS at age 67. No lumps had formed and I had the lumpectomy with radiation.  Had I not had an annual mammogram and have to wait another year would a lump have formed and become invasive?  Who knows, but I felt better having the treatment.

Helen

11/18/2009 8:01:51 PM #

Susan Jerkovich

Thank you Dr. Len for all your time informing patients like me.  Stage 2, Her-2 positive breast cancer(2cm tumor one lympnoid) floored me 19 months ago, I found the mass in the typical location.  Due to the holidays I was 13 months since last mammo & am certain I would have only been a late stage 1 if screened on time.  Please continue to fight for all of us!!!

Susan Jerkovich

11/18/2009 8:03:27 PM #

Susan Jerkovich

Thank you Dr. Len for all your time informing patients like me.  Stage 2, Her-2 positive breast cancer(2cm tumor one lympnoid) floored me 19 months ago, I found the mass in the typical location.  Due to the holidays I was 13 months since last mammo & am certain I would have only been a late stage 1 if screened on time.  Please continue to fight for all of us!!!

Susan Jerkovich

11/19/2009 11:57:24 AM #

Ralph Valle

I support ACS’s position on mammography in opposition to the USPSTF’s recent screening recommendations. I also congratulate women for standing their ground in opposition. Breast cancer death reductions support this position.

The opposite is true in the case of prostate cancer where death reductions are not enough for the ACS to oppose USPSTF’s recommendations about screening with PSA. As a survivor who is alive thanks to early detection, I feel that the ACS should consider changing their ambivalent position. As men continue to be confused about screening with PSA they continue to die unnecessarily. We have too quiet for too long!

Ralph Valle

11/19/2009 12:02:15 PM #

Angela

I was diagnosed with stage IIIC colon cancer at age 38 then stage II breast cancer last year at the age of 40. I have no family history of cancer, don't drink, don't smoke, exercised, and ate right. I am vehemently opposed to waiting until 50 for a mammogram. Furthermore, I believe colonoscopies should start sooner than 50, as there are people in their 20s and 30s being diagnosed with colon cancer.  If I had waited until I was 50 for either test, I would not be here.  You need to be in tune with your body, trust your intuition, and if something is not right, see your doctor.  If that doctor dismisses your concerns, find another doctor.  I have had to get second, even third, opinions and it is probably the reason that I am still here today.

Angela

11/19/2009 12:33:40 PM #

kittykitty7555

The stories from individuals diagnosed with cancer due to screening mammography are interesting, but are not an adequate basis for making public health policy or recommending medical tests.  Every woman whose cancer was picked up via screening mammography believes her life was saved, but in fact it is far more likely that she never needed treatment in the first place.  That's right, screeining mammography programs produce overdiagnosis and overtreatment, and healthy women get treated for cancer all the time.  Please see http://www.screening.dk/folder_uk.pdf
When screening mammography was introduced in the US, breast cancer rates shot up 40%!  And yet the rate of advanced cancers barely budged.  Got it?  If mammo was picking up dangerous cancers early the rate of advanced cancers would have plummeted.  Yet that has never happened ANYWHERE screening has been introduced.  The harvest of screening mammo has been mutilation, misery and poverty for too many women.  Yet we all think it has been some kind of a godsend.  Wake up everyone!

kittykitty7555

11/19/2009 1:35:13 PM #

Sam

Has anyone considered that the increase in diagnosis of DCIS in young women may perhaps be due to environmental reasons, such as the hormones and toxins put into our foods and drink? Or the pollution that has affected our water supply? Or side effects from other medications? I was diagnosed with non invasive DCIS at 37 due to my baseline screening - no lump. I have no risk factors, no family history and was negative on the breast cancer genetic testing. My surgeon stated had I gone one more year, my cancer would have become invasive and I would have had to have chemo, rather than the surgeries and radiation I have had to treat my illness. I am not a data expert, but perhaps the environmental changes over the past few decades are negating the decrease in mortality rate. Perhaps more women are being diagnosed because there are more risks. So far, no one has asked me or looked into where I lived, or worked, what I eat, where I bought my food, whether or not I have ever taken birth control pills, nothing like that. My bottom line point - where is the research in WHY there is an increase in diagnosis, and shouldn't the emphasis be put more on the improvement of the tools that we use to diagnose, to avoid false positives, rather than a reduction in screenings that will cost women their lives? Common sense.

Sam

11/19/2009 1:48:47 PM #

Steve

In the six years since my prostate cancer diagnosis, I have observed the clinical similarity between it and breast cancer. I have also observed that the ladies are much more proactive in advocating their desire for research and treatment. When I read the USPSTF recommendation on breast cancer, and its close similarity to the recommendation re: prostate cancer, then observed what happened when the ladies took action, I was very pleased for them. Now, it is time for ACS to step forward and revise its position on prostate cancer to match.

Steve

11/19/2009 2:14:49 PM #

Ralph Valle

This is a comment for kittykitty. You mention all the harms of treatments and the pain of suffering. When only 65% of women at risk regularly get mammograms and STILL there has been a 20% reduction in mortality why you fail to mention that? You must have a crystal ball to know how what you call overtreated cancers will do in time Hear that kittykitty? You need to think outside the box...

Ralph Valle

11/19/2009 2:56:05 PM #

kittykitty7555

Ralph, the fall in breast cancer mortality coincided with the introduction of tamoxifen into treatment regimens.  And please, you need to think outside the box and stop getting your info from those who benefit when women get cancer.  For an independent point of view please follow the link below to the British Medical Journal and read about overdiagnosis - this is a real issue - healthy women get treated for cancer all the time due to screening mammo.  Why so few people even know about this is beyond me.  
www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/339/jul09_1/b2587

kittykitty7555

11/19/2009 3:20:24 PM #

Sam

Kittkitty - where is the proof that the cancers "healthy women" are treated for (an oxymoron at best) would not develop into advanced cancers? I want to see the research that proves this "consiracy" that there are women who get treated for "cancers that would never progress?" Where is the proof that DCIS remains dormant? Is it in the women who have invasive DCIS? Nooo...because that refutes the theory. Is it in women in their 80's who pass away and have existing DCIS? Noooo...no one knows when those developed. No one knows. Not even you, Kittykitty.

Sam

11/19/2009 3:30:16 PM #

kittykitty7555

There is plenty of evidence that overdiagnosis is real.  Read this from the British Medical Journal:  www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/339/jul09_1/b2587 This is written by the world's foremost experts on the subject.  Read all of the responses to the article as well.  Yes, believe me, I know overdiagnosis is real - the rate is 50% in countries that screen less often than the US!  And these researchers are not alone - it has been proven again and again over at least 10 years.

kittykitty7555

11/19/2009 4:53:09 PM #

Ralph Valle

Kitty, the study you cite doesn’t mention one word about BCa death reduction. Not a word! It is all about overdiagnosis even when accepting that it is not possible to distinguish between lethal and harmless cancers. When in doubt, most of these cancers are treated. As far as Tamoxifen, it was developed in the 60s and approved here in 1978 to treat metastatic, estrogen receptor-positive BCa. Since BCa mortality here peaked in 1989 and 1990 I don’t see how it could reduce mortality as you mention. In the case of Tamoxifen’s FDA approval to prevent BCa, that happened in 1998. By then mortality had started to drop since 1991 and had dropped from 33.23/100K to 27.52/100K by 1998.
Kitty, I get my information from open sources and if you are accusing me of benefiting from those that benefit from treating cancer it is because that is what you are doing yourself…

Ralph Valle

11/19/2009 6:14:24 PM #

kittykitty7555

Dr. Michael Baum, an eminent breast surgeon and researcher in London, does not believe that screening mammography is linked to decreased mortality, and he is not alone.  He says, "One recent study shows that for every life saved, 10 healthy women will be treated unnecessarily for cancer.  He said in an e-mail that declining mortality rates are more likely linked to better treatments, such as the adoption of tamoxifen and improved chemotherapy."

kittykitty7555

11/19/2009 11:17:05 PM #

Gregory D. Pawelski

According to the Atlantic, John Crewdson, the only American reporter at the Stockholm news conference in 2002, on The Lancet publication of the Swedish meta-analysis, analyzing and updating the half-dozen Swedish mammography studies that told us nearly all of what we knew about the value of mammography, last month, Dr. Otis Brawley, the cancer society's chief medical officer, was quoted in the New York Time admitting "that American medicine has overpromised when it comes to screening. The advantages to screening have been exaggerated." Crewdson wasn't surprised by Brawley's statement, since he had expressed the same view to him when they met at a cancer symposium in Milan in 2003. Following the task force report's release, however, Brawley appeared to change direction, telling The Times that the cancer society had concluded that the benefits of annual mammograms beginning at 40 "outweighed the risks" and that the ACS was sticking by its earlier advice. One of Brawley's colleagues said, "He's trying to save his job. He was broiled at home for the interview in which he said that the medical establishment was 'overselling' screening." Dr. Donald Berry, head of biostatistics at the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, points out that if the Swedish update is read carefully, the benefit for women 40-50 is really only 9 percent, which is not statistically significant, meaning it could represent the play of chance and not a real advantage. What Brawley failed to mention is that the numbers the news media are flinging around are the relative benefit. Utterly obscured is the number that really matters, the absolute benefit.

Gregory D. Pawelski

11/20/2009 8:16:36 AM #

Ralph Valle

Kitty,the truth is in the numbers. In the UK the death rate for BCa is 40.0/100K and here with more intensive screening is 27.3/100K. Now, where would you rather be to survive breast cancer? Data source is the WHO database.

Ralph Valle

11/20/2009 9:15:05 AM #

kittykitty7555

Ralph, the fact that screening mammo leads so many American women into unnecessary cancer treatment makes US death rates look better than the rest of the world.  In cases where women were overdiagnosed, their "cancer" would never have spread, caused symptoms or killed them, but they were still treated - little wonder many more American women survive breast cancer.  They wouldn't have died even if they were not treated, and this is why survival rates so look good.

kittykitty7555

11/20/2009 9:44:02 AM #

Ralph Valle

Kitty, I am talking deaths and not survival. Overtreated women (not destined to die anyway) do not impact the mortality rate. Open your mind. The numbers presented before represented actual deaths. Fewer women are dying here from BCa than in the UK.
Those are facts that you can’t confuse…

Ralph Valle

11/20/2009 10:01:16 AM #

Denise Martin

I am appalled that in this day an age we are taking a step backward when it comes to preventative healthcare all for the sake of $'s.  Let's stop paying for legislators healthcare after they leave office and let them pay for their own / no one pays for mine after I leave my job. But if a mammogram would save one man, woman or child the money is well spent.  Too many times these studies are done and then down the line come back to haunt us.  Now in msnbc.com Pap smears should be done every two years instead of yearly.  Heck why do any screenings at all by time everyone is done having their say.  Women won't stand a chance.  STOP now and let the Healthcare reform take care of itself and Insurance companies keep out of the process.  The lives of so many are at stake.  With a family and so many friends who have various types of cancer don't take away the rights that have given me because someone has decided for me that there is not enough people diagnoised.  ONE is enough in my book

Denise Martin

11/20/2009 10:08:17 AM #

Sam

Once again, where is the documentation that these cancers in "overtreated" women would not have spread? I have not seen that proof, because it doesn't exist. Nobody knows what kinds of breast cancers are harmless and what kind are not. These comments above are clearly made by someone who has not experienced having cancer in their body. Would I listen to anyone who told me that I could live with this disease in my body and that I would "probably be OK?" No. I do not want cancer in my body and would have it treated regardless. That is a normal, human response to someone who is young, (young also being a state of mind), has a family and is not willing to take chances with their own or their families'lives. You people that continue to site "absolute deaths" etc. have a not-so-kind way of saying "everyone doesn't matter, just the ones who contrinute to the larger numbers. Let's get more bang for our buck!" Therfore, why treat ALS patients? There aren't enough of them to make a difference. I mean, death is the natural order of things, right? Thanks, but I am glad you are not medical professionals taking care of me or my family.

Sam

11/20/2009 11:11:12 AM #

kittykitty7555

Ralph, please see the following website for UK breast cancer death rates - it shows 27 per 100,000 in 2007.  That's the same as the US, if your US figures are right.
info.cancerresearchuk.org/.../

kittykitty7555

11/20/2009 12:11:16 PM #

Ralph Valle

Kitty, The data presented before was from the World Health Organization and not a US database. Your figure from the Research website represents an age-standardized rate using a European population and cannot be compared to results in other countries.
Age-standardized rates enable comparisons to be made between populations that have different age structures. The WHO database uses direct standardization in which the age-specific rates for the population of interest are applied to a standard population. This effectively removes the influence of the age structure on the summary rate. All rates are age-standardized to the WHO standard population and are expressed as rates per 100,000 population.

Ralph Valle

11/20/2009 1:44:08 PM #

Rosalie

I am outraged by the announcement stating annual mammograms are not required until the age of 50!  I would think preventive care is the way to go rather than wait until the cancer stage is so severe, expensive treatments, not to mention how a severe cancer stage affects the patient, family, friends, and co-workers, that mammography is the way to go.  I am telling anyone I know to ignore these guidelines, insist on a mammogram every year weather you are at high risk or not!  I was not high risk and have no family history of breast cancer, yet I was diagnosed.  The mammogram saved my life!

Rosalie

11/20/2009 2:24:16 PM #

Vikki

I am so very, very angry.  How many of these "know-it-all's" has witnessed people going through breast cancer.  How many have seen the effect it has on the individual AND their family.  I lost my sister to this disease, my family has been burdened with different types of cancer and I'm really sick of individuals telling us WHEN TO HAVE THE EXAMS.  I have survived three (3) different types of cancer praying remission continues but to those who have not survived - I pray for them.  I have been loud about bringing CANCER awareness to my community and now I have people telling us - NO NEED!!  AM I ANGRY - you're darn right I am.  Continue early detection!

Vikki

11/20/2009 2:36:23 PM #

Paula

There is so much talk about mortality rates and saving lives but what about the “quality of life” an early diagnosis brings?  Fifteen years ago, I had my first cancer diagnosis at age 37—I had already had several biopsies prior to the one that found the cancer.  Although mammography didn’t find the lump (I had extremely dense breasts), and an ultrasound diagnosed it as a “cyst”, I’m grateful that I had an aggressive surgeon who decided to do the biopsy—1 cm Stage 1 Invasive Ductal Carcinoma.  I was able to have a lumpectomy, plus was given radiation therapy and a mild chemo regimen.  Five years later, after several more negative biopsies, DCIS was found in the other breast—again, not through mammogram but from self exam.  I opted for bilateral mastectomy with reconstruction given my previous history.  Here I sit ten years later as healthy as I was before diagnosis.  Had it not been for self breast exams and a good surgeon, I would have had to face a later stage cancer with much more radical treatments if I’d waited to follow the guidelines of the time.  We’ve gained so much ground making women more aware of the need to not be complacent in the face of this disease—these new recommendations (and the possible implications in the health care reforms coming down the pike) could destroy the advances we’ve made.

Paula

11/20/2009 5:02:20 PM #

eileen

I work as an oncology nurse largely with breast cancer patients. Many of them are young premenopausal women who have been diagnosed based on early detection of their cancers. Also for those patients who carry the braca gene, the prediction is that the patients' daughters may develop breast cancer 10 years earlier. Why would we undo our progress in preventative health care, decrease survivorship and in the end cost our health care system more?

eileen

11/21/2009 8:51:19 AM #

Dianne

As a breast cancer survivor, I am very concerned about the comment by DMC stating that screenings are resulting in only a "tiny mortality benefit."  I was diagnosed with an aggressive DCIS that had already become invasive at age 40, only found because of a mammogram.  The focus should be on figuring out which DCIS cases will become invasive, not less screenings.

Dianne

11/21/2009 9:42:55 AM #

Gregory D. Pawelski

The news about mammograms is not brand new information based on one study that just came out. The recommendations that the Preventive Services Task Force (PSTF) released is based on research that experts have known about for some time. Dr. Herman Kattlove, a retired medical oncologist did research on mammograms in the early 1990's. For seven years, until his retirement in 2006, Kattlove had served as a medical editor for the American Cancer Society where he had helped develop much of the information about specific cancers that is posted on the society's website. On his own personal cancer blog, Kattlove wrote, “Many years ago, the National Cancer Institute (NCI) tried to convince us all to not screen women younger than 50 and were given such a tongue lashing by Congress that they went home, licking their wounds, and withdrew their recommendation.” Of course, Congress should not have become involved in telling the NCI what information it should make available to the public. Few Congressmen are either M.D.s or scientists trained to analyze and critique medical research. But this illustrates just how politically charged the question of diagnostic testing has become, especially when companies like GE that are making large profits on the sale of diagnostic testing equipment, and their lobbyists are helping to finance Congressional campaigns. For decades doctors have urged patients to undergo mammograms because they sincerely believed that mammograms saved many lives. They, too, were not receiving all of the information they needed about the risks. Powerful forces stood in the way of widespread dissemination while millions of dollars were poured into the Mammogram campaign. Kattlove goes on to say, “Likewise, the American Cancer Society also avoids looking clearly at the data and continues to recommend screening for younger women. And the morning’s paper carried lots of outrage from breast cancer specialists and other docs who are committed to screening younger women. Some of the reasons for this are political and financial. The ACS doesn’t want to enrage its donor base, Congress didn’t want to upset constituents and breast cancer specialists have faith in the procedure. I’m sure all the pink breast cancer organizations are also organizing their protest. Why this emotion and outrage? I think because we feel helpless when we see women die of breast cancer, sometimes while still young. Indeed, deaths in these young women hit us hard. So we want to do something and our only tool is mammography. “But mammography is not the answer for these women.”

Gregory D. Pawelski

11/21/2009 9:44:00 AM #

Gregory D. Pawelski

As Kattlove points out in his post, when young women die of breast cancer they are usually killed by very fast-growing aggressive cancers that grow too quickly to be caught by early detection. The tumors crop up, and spread in between annual mammograms. Kattlove continues: “The unfortunate side effect of this delusion [that screening and early detection is the answer] is that we avoid the hard choices like healthy life styles and avoiding cancer-causing drugs such as hormone-replacement treatment. I would add that while I applaud the PSTF for bringing this research to our attention, I wish that they had done this two or three years ago. From a political point of view, the timing is unfortunate because inevitably, those who oppose health care reform will exploit this report to suggest that, under reform, the Government will use “comparative effectiveness research” to deny necessary care—and as a result patients will die. In fact, health care reformers, the government and Medicare understand that, after thirty years of telling women that they must have annual mammograms, we cannot turn on a dime and expect them to suddenly absorb the information that for most average-risk women under 50, mammograms pose more risks than benefits. No one is going to stop covering mammograms. But responsible physicians will begin giving patients more information about what the medical research shows, including the fact that for most women, the danger of undergoing unnecessary radiation, or an unneeded mastectomy or lumpectomy, far exceeds the likelihood that a mammogram will save their lives. Moreover, it is important to remember that the “comparative effectiveness information” that the government plans to generate will serve to create guidelines—not “rules”—for doctors. In the U.K., doctors use such guidelines about 88 percent of the time, which seems appropriate, giving how much variation there can be in individual cases. Finally, under reform it is extremely unlikely that insurers (including the public plan) will stop covering treatments and tests (including PSA tests), that have been in use for a long time. More likely, they will lift co-pays and lower reimbursements for procedures that are less effective, while lowering co-pays and lifting reimbursements for procedures that the medical evidence shows are more effective. In this case, unfortunately, we don’t yet have a good alternative to mammograms, a further reason why insurers will not suddenly stop covering the tests.

Gregory D. Pawelski

11/21/2009 10:53:59 AM #

kittykitty7555

Sam, overdiagnosis is real.  In the UK they are much more advanced in their acknowledgement of this issue.  Please see:  www.timesonline.co.uk/.../article6898189.ece

This article, which is entitled "Thousands of Women Misled Into Breast Cancer Surgery" discusses how the National Health Service in the UK was forced to specifically mention overdiagnosis of breast cancer in their mammogram promotion leaflets.  There is absolutely no question that overdiagnosis occurs.  Breast cancer shot up 40% in the US after the introduction of widespread screening and this has happened everywhere screening was introduced.

kittykitty7555

11/22/2009 11:22:17 AM #

kittykitty7555

The eminent researchers at the Cochrane center commented on the new screening recommendations and overdiagnosis in a letter to the publication Annals of Internal Medicine.  See it here:
www.annals.org/content/151/10/727.abstract/reply
In part their letter reads, "The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force now recommends against breast screening in women aged 40-49 years, but it may be the case for all age groups that the harms outweigh the benefits. An effect of 15% and an overdiagnosis of 30% mean that for every 2000 women invited for screening throughout 10 years, one will have her life prolonged and 10 healthy women, who would not have been diagnosed if there had not been screening, will be treated unnecessarily."
There is incontrovertible evidence that screening mammography results in massive overdiagnosis - to the tune of about 50%.  Please read the letter and look up the rest of thier research.  And Sam, I don't care who you are, you don't know more than these guys.

kittykitty7555

12/1/2009 10:22:27 AM #

Sam

Kitty, sorry to say but you don't know more than "these guys" either. And I have read the articles you continue to quote over and over and I STILL do not see where medical professionals have determined which cancers will spread and which will not. I implore you to show me me that proof. And I also would like to hear from all of the above folks who have commented again and again on "the man" and the people who benefit from breast cancer machinery, diagnosis, etc. Which of you have had cancer? Kitty - you cannot tell me honestly that if you had cancer in your body you wouldn't have it removed. Because if yuo say that, then you are lying. And I don't care who you are, we ALL know better than that.

Sam

12/3/2009 8:23:18 AM #

Toni

Why do we just keep talking about mortality?  What happened to "quality of life"?  I can guarantee you there are less negative impacts to a false positive than there are to having a later rather than earlier diagnosis.  And if all we care about is $$, then there's probably less money spent on a false positive than on a later diagnosis.  In my early 40s, my diagnosis was early enough to allow for a lumpectomy.  If found later, i could have been facing all the negatives of mastectomy and chemo.  How much stress and money is an unnecessary mastectomy worth if it could have been avoided in the first place with early detection?  What are decreased arm use, reconstructive surgery, impending musculoskeletal issues, poisons in your bloodstream worth in terms of money and anxiety?  True, we don't know how many undergo unnecessary surgery for a disease that might not progress.  But what about those that undergo it because it wasn't caught early enough to have done something different in the first place?  This is all the beginning of the rationing we have to look forward to.

Toni

12/3/2009 9:23:54 PM #

Carole

I am a 2x cancer survivor.  My first time was breast cancer and it was not diagnosed on a mammo - i found it myself and my new doctor felt a lump even though the mammo didn't indicate cancer.  Had I not gone for a second opinion and had surgery even though the surgeon too thought it was benign, I would be dead today.  I had a Excisional Biopsy and found cancer and then 2 weeks later a Re-Excision and node removal and radiation treatments and then Tamoxifen.  I didn't like Tamoxifen and had the Doc change the medication - Aromasin.  I was going along for 3 years and whoa! my tumor markers shot up and a tumor was found behind my stomach.  Again, there were no other symptoms and a CT Scan was done, PET Scan and it was Adenocarcinoma.  Surgery included a hysterectomy, tumor removal and now 4 years later on Faslodex Injection.  I had another serious disorder and since the cancer was "confined" to the tumor, we tried Faslodex and hoped that it wouldn't return at a later stage.  Now 4 years later I am still in remission and my tumor markers are 2.5 max normal and sometimes lower.  CT Scans yearly have proven no recurrence of tumor in the AB/Pelvic area.  I'm lucky, but only because I took the bull by the horns and did my own research and questioned doctors and specialists and did what I felt best for me.  So far so good!  You must use your own good judgement and go by your GUT.  Doctors and tests are not always accurate.

Carole

12/8/2009 1:56:59 PM #

DoctorDoctor

http://thinkbeforeyoupink.org/

DoctorDoctor

12/8/2009 2:17:30 PM #

DC

Sam, Sam sammy sam.... You're right doctors can't tell which cancers diagnosed on a biopsy will progress and which ones will remain dormant.  It is only after the fact looking at what we have done over the past 30 years that we can see all the increases early stage cancers and relative lack of benefit on mortality that we can see the harms we've caused.  10 women needlessly diagnosed with cancer for every one saved.  No one wants to believe it but we have visited a great harm upon the women of this country.  The number of women harmed is actually larger than the total number of women destined to die of breast cancer.  Think about that for a moment.  Ask why large breast cancer patient advocacy organizations have been against mindless application of screening mammograms for decades.  Ask why congress got involved with the expert panel of the NCI in 1997.  Why goes the FDA receive more than half its funding from the industry it supposedly regulates.  The corruption brought about from the need to maintain not only profit but endless growth within all branches of medicine has resulted in some very odd circumstances.  None is more grotesque than screening mammograms where most of the women "saved" were actually harmed and now become unwitting spokespersons for the test that harmed them.  The harms of the health care system are systemic.  This is only one small piece of the puzzle.  Take time to dispassionately examine the system and see how not participating is healthy.

DC

12/9/2009 1:19:38 PM #

Carole

To all:  Some of you are so out of whack it is pitiful.  It is a woman's choice whether she chooses to have a mammogram or not!  No one forces her to go and make the appointment; she does it out of concern for herself.  If she was trained by her doctor on how to do a breast exam, she would know what to look for! If she felt that she didn't want a mammo, then so be it.  However, the people who think that mammos are a waste of money etc, are not the ones that are hit with the disease.  They will eventually die of something and it may be "late stage breast cancer" or a cancer that has spread elsewhere and then it is too late.   Mammos are an important tool for they detect "something". I really think that Ultrasounds should be done after a mammo has shown "something".  I had breast cancer and it was not found on a mammo, the tumor was found, but not the disease and it is up to the individual to fullow their gut and get other opinions and possibily save their own lives.

Carole

1/2/2010 11:54:31 AM #

Diane Jones

It is not only important for regular mammograms, but it is essential for each individual to do self breast exams.
I was a high risk, early 30's female..(I am now almost 46).with cancer on both sides of the family.
I requested mammograms early on and was denied for various reasons, age; being one of them. I found a lump in my breast,had a mammogram (showed nothing) had a biopsy, and was fine. A year later, same place,another lump. Not sure if it was scar tissue, the surgeon decided to do another biopsy; the diagnosis was  ATYPICAL HYPERPLASIA. Not cancer... yet! Nobody could determine if I would get cancer..... or not! Could not get many answers to many questions so I began my own research. I felt like a time bomb waiting to go off.
In 2001 I had 2 doctors that performed a TRAM; and my insurance company paid for almost all of it.   I have had 99% of my breast cells removed and no longer need mammograms. I feel free from the worries of breast cancer. I did not ONLY rely on mammograms, I put most of the responsibility in my own hands. If I need to get only ONE thing through to woman today, it would be to do self breast exams and mammograms. Am I a survivor? I asked the American Cancer Society what constitutes a person a 'survivor'? They do not have a definition of the term cancer survivor. They feel a cancer survivor is anyone who identifies themselves as one, from diagnosis onward. They respect a person's right to self-define their experience. I have given it much thought. I did not actually HAVE cancer diagnosed. What I did have, was the last stage BEFORE cancer. To me? I am a survivor! If I did not do self breast exams, and the mammograms would not even pick up on the lump, then when would I have been informed of cancer? AFTER the mammogram picked it up? In its early stages? No, I did not actually have cancer but I was traveling the path. I intervened and stopped it from being called CANCER. I believe that if I had nothing to worry about then the doctors would never have performed the surgery and the insurance company would have never paid for everythng but the copay. What level do you want to be at when your told something is not right? A stage before cancer? or when you have cancer?
DO SELF BREAST EXAMS! Don't rely on just mammograms.
God bless you all
Diane Jones

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